Comments on: CONSTANTINE’S BACHELOR BLOG: FINALE

By: confused

confused — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:26:00 +0000

Oh god now you can see why Ashley brought you to final 3 even though she was not into romantically you. It ‘s courageous to openly admit that you played a part in a someone’s love story. Props to you.

show over. Move on. Time to shake hands and make friends.

By: Maria P.

Maria P. — Fri, 23 Mar 2012 07:58:51 +0000

THUMBS UP FOR THE EDITOR OF YOU RECAPS

By: starr

starr — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:30:17 +0000

Been. I watched every episode. You made the wrong choice the things Courtney said to them other girls like to kacey. B when she said how did that feel coming out of your mouth. You toataly should of picked kacey.b u saw the other side of the in it to win it Courtney

By: Dudette

Dudette — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:30:32 +0000

@ Terrisa )) Thank God Courtney didn’t join DWTS! I find the whole thing exhausting too and wish them well. Shame on Fleiss.

I guess The Bachelor kind of shows what many of us young women in the free world have become: competitors against each other for the attention and approval of a man. We join the clique but are still wary of each other. We spend how much time, energy and money on makeup, clothes, accessories, diet food and gyms so we can get male approval and snag a guy? And then when we hit our forties we go into fullscale panic and surgery mode because “getting older” for women is “ugly” and our men are looking at younger mates. What if we ditched everything that the fairytales and media have taught us? What if women embraced getting older and wiser and channeled their gifts of compassion into a worthwhile fight? The human race can only evolve if the females get together to do it – because let’s face it – the men don’t have a very good track record!

By: Terrisa

Terrisa — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 04:01:57 +0000

You are one highly evolved, intelligent dudette!

By: Dudette

Dudette — Sun, 18 Mar 2012 23:38:46 +0000

@ John Clymore I think there’d be more of a revolution if women could have as many husbands as they want! Or if they decided to make their own “tribe” and keep the men on the side. Kind of like the Bonobo monkeys – the females stick with each other and help take care of each other’s offspring, while the males have no idea who they’ve fathered and are there to provide sperm and protection. The women stick together and don’t fight with each other over the males; males are secondary. Incidentally, the Bonobos are the most peaceful of all the apes.

I wonder if Fleiss could somehow make a show out of all this with humans as the bonobos are quite promiscuous, but I doubt Fleiss’ role in society is to teach anyone anything lol.

By: Terrisa

Terrisa — Sun, 18 Mar 2012 06:22:39 +0000

Thanks to Constantine for a very well written blog and sharp humor. On the broader spectrum as to whether or not a MAN OR A WOMAN can love 2 people at the same time: if I were asked to just quickly answer yes or no, I would probably say yes, in general one can. However, ultimately I agree with Constantine’s view. The biggest gift that my parents gave my brothers & sisters & me was their love, devotion & respect for each other, and for us, of course. This is not a moral judgment of some who do choose to have multiple partners, but I don’t believe that one can love in the same way, to the depth & beauty, when so many people are involved. Just take Ben’s experience with Courtney, for instance, and one is reminded of how much time and conscious effort is required to really get to know (to ‘love’) another human being.

I have many more viewpoints on that, but on to the more focused discussion – Ben & Courtney. I’ve been back & forth on them as a couple. Yes, I saw his immediate, strong attraction to Courtney, and was both sad and hopeful for them after the After Final Rose episode. However, they both seem so confused – Ben especially, and he doesn’t seem ready for marriage. I thought Ben might have said at The Final Rose that he was too confused to move forward; perhaps he didn’t want to take the risk of losing Courtney. However, I read an article by People writer Monica Rizzo 3/17 (realityworld.com/news/the-bachelor-ben…) who says she interviewed both Ben & Courtney, and there are several surprising quotes. With regard to Ben’s grabbing another woman’s rear recently, he says that was a ‘butt pat,’ and goes on: “My friends grab my butt. I’m physical & affectionate with friends – guys and girls..” It wasn’t just that one statement (if accurate), that confused me about the article. But I think it’s been exhausted enough.

On the subject of Courtney possibly being on Dancing with the Stars: this is another source of confusion for me. IF what they both repeatedly said was true: that the source of their problems was being apart, and not able to grow together in love, in private, away from the public, then I don’t see that this would be a consideration. Not even if they had been stronger as a couple. DWTS takes a LOT of time & commitment, and of course you’re under public scrutiny.

By: jj

jj — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:25:44 +0000

Well great discussion and a difficult topic in a culture that purging itself of an unrealistic minority who are a dying group holding on for their last hurrah.

I hope that in the next 20-30 years as we all learn that love is so complex and different with everyone in our lives, that we will start talking more openly. With open discussion will increase the breath of our understanding of ‘love’, ‘lust’, ‘like’, ‘passion’, ….. ‘gender’… ‘sex’ our culture is transitioning and I believe is creating a new center…but the swing feels like crap for me right now and I think many of us who want to be open and free from the oppression of the conservative approach to companionship.

I am lesbian and being with one person for life does not appeal to me… I enjoy dating and I enjoy long times of being single… not being partnered.. I have friends who navigate having more than one committed healthy long term relationship at a time. others who ar in longterm loving marriages all make since to me… why is one morally correct????? the other sinful???? because a religion or religious peopole want to infuse their beliefes of “TRUTH” into law… hummm a problem

basicly love is different, evolves.. has layers, is effected by many things… and yes is an experience that may be in the moment and never agian with a person… we dont know why?????? I hunch it is like many ‘experiences’ in life one keeps chasing them.. at times that is what an addiction is..
this could be toooooo much in love with love.. ha

By: John Clymore

John Clymore — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:52:02 +0000

@Dudette
Yeah I read you, some women also can love more then 1 man, this is not uncommon and many queens of olden days did have many men-lovers etc. But it is more of a common theme of men.
I have a male student in my class who has 3 girlfriends (and sleeps with all of them) all the girls know of this, and it creates jealousy. That is where the problem would be. I can imagine the drama in a house if a man has 5 wives and they all live together. It would be like an episode of WTA everyday.
Also I have many gay students who tend to be rather promiscuous. Some of them love more then 1 partner at a time. My observation is that gay males tend to be very polygamous.
Believe me this..if society said it is OK for a man to have more then 1 wife, we would be seeing a revolution, esp in the higher ups of society. In days past the aristocracy were very polygamous. In Old Europe the aristocratic who were the land barons had many women..and many wives.

By: Victoria

Victoria — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 04:50:36 +0000

I appreciate your bothering to respond Constantine and acknowledge that you have a point – I’ve gone overboard and it’s not helping anyone. I’m just a lot older than you are and I’m seeing a familiar personality profile (or THINK I am right?)